Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/10/1995 02:06 PM Senate JUD

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        SB 132 JUDICIAL REVIEW:TEACHER TENURE DECISIONS                       
                                                                              
  CHAIRMAN ROBIN TAYLOR  called the Judiciary Committee meeting to             
 order at 2:06 p.m.  The first order of business before the                    
 committee was SB 132.                                                         
                                                                               
 CARL ROSE, Executive Director of the Association of Alaska School             
 Boards, testified in support of SB 132.  He stated the intent of SB
 132 was not to repeal tenure, but to provide more latitude to                 
 school managers experiencing funding difficulties.  He gave the               
 following sectional analysis.  Section 1 brings former federal                
 employees in line with the law.  Section 2 changes the time                   
 required to attain tenure from the first day of the third year to             
 the first day of the sixth year.                                              
                                                                               
 MR. ROSE discussed Sections 3, 4, and 5. Recent college graduates             
 spend five years or more getting certified to teach in public                 
 schools.  Under current law, management does not have enough time             
 to evaluate and make decisions that can be career altering.  More             
 observation time is needed, and new employees need more time for              
 in-service professional development, as well as oversight.  Current           
 law contains four reasons for non-retention:  substantial non-                
 compliance; insubordination; immorality; and enrollment decline.              
 The intent of including enrollment decline is to speak to financial           
 emergencies.  He suggested striking the enrollment decline                    
 provision from the non-retention section, and creating a new                  
 provision in Section 5 that would provide for layoff provisions.              
 The layoff provisions should address the financial problems of                
 revenue shortfall and enrollment, protect seniority and tenure, and           
 address rehire provisions.  He stated he does not believe school              
 systems should non-retain employees because of a lack of funds by             
 using the same provisions that are used to dismiss convicted                  
 felons.  If a layoff provision needs to be used, it should be fair            
 and should provide for rehire rights.                                         
                                                                               
 MR. ROSE explained the academic program needs provision of Section            
 5 was included to direct the Department of Education to move into             
 subject area endorsements, rather than secondary endorsements, to             
 ensure that people are certified in the subjects they are teaching.           
 Regarding rehire rights, the school districts should be able to               
 look at qualifications before seniority.  This would improve                  
 classroom instruction, and require appropriate endorsement in the             
 workforce.                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. ROSE discussed the de novo provisions in Section 6.  Standard             
 practice for non-retention of a tenured teacher allows the teacher            
 the right to a hearing at the local level.  If that hearing is not            
 favorable to a tenured teacher, he/she may apply for a trial de               
 novo.  In such a trial, the case must be recreated, as there is no            
 record to review.  Many times this occurs years after the                     
 infraction and the ability of the school district to recreate the             
 case accurately is impaired.  CSSB 132 (HES) would require the                
 record to be recognized and reviewed by Superior Court to determine           
 if either party's due process rights were abridged.  This same                
 system is used for state employees.  Mr. Rose explained in one                
 year, up until March of 1994, over $700,000 of expense was incurred           
 by the Association in seven trials.  Those costs could discourage             
 a school district from dismissing an employee that was non-                   
 satisfactory or incompetent.  He discussed the broad range of                 
 abilities that lie between excellence and incompetence, and                   
 believed that incompetence is too low of a standard to use for non-           
 retention.  Second, many insurance companies encourage out-of-court           
 settlements in these cases, thereby increasing liability rates.               
                                                                               
 Regarding other sections of the bill, MR. ROSE stated the AASB is             
 not opposed to Section 7 as that ability is currently available               
 with mutual consent.  The AASB has not taken a formal position on             
 the Retirement Incentive Program (RIP).  He expressed concern with            
 Section 18 since it would grandfather in Sections 1-6, which will             
 prevent school districts from applying CSSB 132 (HES) to all but              
 new employees.  The AASB is adamantly opposed to Section 18 because           
 school districts need the tools to deal with financial constraints.           
                                                                               
 MR. ROSE discussed the question of whether school board members are           
 qualified to address these issues.  He commented school board                 
 members are elected locally to represent the people they serve, are           
 held accountable at the polls, and can, and will be sued.                     
                                                                               
 Number 210                                                                    
                                                                               
 Jeff Cluteer, NEA, expressed concern that a bill that was designed            
 to save money suddenly contains an axe to attack the teaching                 
 profession.  He made the following comments on several sections of            
 CSSB 132 (HES).  Increasing the probationary period for tenure to             
 five years does a disservice since training courses for                       
 administrators in the state assert the number one job of an                   
 administrator is to evaluate teachers to ensure teacher performance           
 meets expectations.  If administrators cannot adequately assess the           
 worthiness of the employee, the administrators are not doing their            
 jobs.  Regarding the issue of the difficulty of removing tenured              
 teachers, it happens in the state almost every year.  He discussed            
 comments made about the costs to school districts for their                   
 representation in de novo trials.  Costs to the school board are              
 approximately ten times that of employees.  CSSB 132 (HES) would              
 assign the superintendent and school board as judge, prosecuting              
 attorney, and jury, all in one.  A de novo trial ensures that does            
 not occur and that there is independent review of whether the                 
 professional standards were upheld by the charging agency.                    
 Regarding open negotiations, he stated as a practitioner of the               
 bargaining process for 25 years, bargaining publicly creates                  
 posturing to the audience on both sides.  He stated tenured                   
 teachers have greater protection than many other state workers.               
 That is an expectation one has when one is a professional,                    
 certificated employee in the State of Alaska, just as other                   
 certificated professionals have.  To remove those protections                 
 demeans the profession.                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 300                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR expressed his concern about the sunshine aspect                
 (Section 6).  He believes the public is tired of closed door                  
 negotiations, but will eventually want an executive session                   
 privelege after using an open door policy for awhile.  MR. CLUTEER            
 responded part of the bargaining process is teaching one's                    
 membership about the process.                                                 
                                                                               
 RICK CROSS, Superintendent of the Fairbanks North Star Borough                
 School District, discussed the trial de novo aspect of CSSB 132               
 (HES).  He stated he believes tenured teachers are entitled to due            
 process and just cause protections.  The Acevedo case in Fairbanks            
 completely redefined a trial de novo as a completely new                      
 proceeding, which differed from the existing practice of a board              
 hearing and judicial review of that record.  Now a full hearing               
 before the school board must occur, complete with cross examination           
 of witnesses, and recorded.  If appealed, a new trial is held at              
 the court level.  The Fairbanks School Board opposes the de novo              
 trial provision for two reasons:  the additional cost of conducting           
 two trials; and the difficulties created by the delay that occurs             
 between the two trials.  They are also concerned about the impact             
 on student witnesses, especially when they must return for a court            
 trial long after they have appeared before the school board.  The             
 Fairbanks School District believes there should be one trial that             
 could be reviewed, if necessary, in the form of an appeal to the              
 Supreme Court.  He discussed the costs associated with the Tony vs.           
 Fairbanks School Board case.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 385                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if the Fairbanks School District received any            
 Rule 82 attorneys fees for the Tony case.  MR. CROSS replied                  
 negatively, but the school district was insured.                              
                                                                               
 Number 401                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER noted a proposed amendment that resulted from a                
 meeting between the Interior delegation and the Fairbanks School              
 Board, which repeals AS 14.97.  He asked Mr. Cross' position on the           
 amendment.  MR. CROSS responded current law requires the lunch hour           
 to be scheduled between 11:00 am and 1:00 pm.  The Fairbanks School           
 Board supports the amendment because there are situations when that           
 lunch hour is not logical.                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS asked for the Fairbanks School District's position on           
 the Retirement Incentive Program (RIP).  MR. CROSS stated they have           
 taken no position on the RIP.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 420                                                                    
                                                                               
 VERN MARSHALL, Executive Director of NEA Alaska, testified.  NEA              
 opposes the idea of extending the probationary window from two to             
 five years, as less than ten states in the country have such a long           
 probationary period.  A person would not get tenure under this                
 provision until the sixth year of employment.  The NEA also feels             
 the layoff provision is too broad and general, and leaves the                 
 regulatory discretion to the department to shape the length of the            
 layoff, the rehire provisions, etc.  Lines 1-6 of page 3 create a             
 situation where a school system could effectively eliminate tenure            
 altogether.  He questioned the provision that allows a school                 
 district to layoff employees to "better meet the academic program             
 needs of the district."  He asked for clarification from the Senate           
 HESS committee but an explanation was not available.  He reiterated           
 that provision is too broad.                                                  
                                                                               
 In regard to the judicial review provision in lines 14-20, MR.                
 MARSHALL discussed the Mat-Su vs. Lumm case.  The Supreme Court               
 found that a school board does not have the expertise to measure              
 quality relative to a professional teacher.  The de novo trial                
 issue was considered in that case.  He hoped the committee would              
 strive to create a hearing process where an unbiased body could               
 grant an unbiased decision.  The issue of a school board who hires            
 a superintendent and hearing officer raises questions about bias.             
 Under CSSB 132 (HES), a record would be created at the school board           
 level.  That record would then go to a Superior Court judge, who              
 would be restricted to the contents of the particular record.  He             
 asked that the idea of an impartial arbiter, employed by the                  
 district to hear the case, be explored.  The arbiter would have no            
 interest from the management or union perspective.   He noted if              
 this section is enacted, the costs could shift to the                         
 administrative level because the teacher would have only one chance           
 for defense.                                                                  
                                                                               
 MR. MARSHALL stated the NEA is opposed to using the RIP to get rid            
 of teachers.  NEA feels RIP is not germane to the tenure issue and            
 believes the RIP should be applied to all city and state employees            
 if it is going to be applied to school districts.                             
                                                                               
 CLAUDIA DOUGLAS, President of NEA, stated NEA is trying very hard             
 to figure out ways to help schools and children, and how to make a            
 difference in classrooms.  She questioned whether CSSB 132 (HES)              
 was motivated by: funding problems; the need to discharge                     
 incompetent teachers; or because due process rights are too                   
 expensive.  She stated the bill does not help children and is                 
 demoralizing to teachers.  NEA would like to try to work with                 
 school boards and administrators to make the process better.  It              
 does not believe that teacher bashing and changing the law without            
 establishing an evaluation process that would improve education for           
 students is fair.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 513                                                                    
                                                                               
 SUE GALVESTON testified for Kathy Gillespie of the Anchorage                  
 Council of PTAs.  The 12,000 member organization supports CSSB 132            
 (HES) as it provides a reliable method of quality control over                
 educators.   No other professions give tenure; in the private                 
 sector professionals are maintained only if their performances                
 indicate they are doing their jobs.  While watching the Senate HESS           
 committee meeting, they were shocked to hear members of the                   
 Anchorage Teachers' Union talk about the lack of effectiveness of             
 the evaluation system for teachers in the Anchorage School                    
 District.  In Anchorage, the PTA was represented on a district                
 committee to review the evaluation system for teachers.  It was               
 reported to those representatives that the Teachers' Union blocked            
 every improvement.  The committee's work was never completed                  
 because negotiations were starting, and even the evaluation process           
 was negotiated.  The Council is deeply concerned about the issues             
 of tenure.  A resolution on acquisition of teacher tenure was                 
 passed by the Council membership recommending the probationary                
 period be extended from two to five years.  The Council also passed           
 a resolution recommending public disclosure of public school                  
 employer/employee negotiations.  The Council has been concerned               
 about the lack of parental involvement in the collective bargaining           
 process of public school employees.  Approximately 82 percent of              
 the Anchorage School District budget is spent on salaries and                 
 benefits negotiated in the collective bargaining process.  The                
 Council is interested in other collective bargaining issues as                
 well.  After contracts are negotiated, they are ratified by the               
 school board outside of the public hearing process.  The ratified             
 contracts supercede and establish school board policy.  The Council           
 is concerned about the public's inability to have any control over            
 the district's budget as long as the public is shut out of the                
 collective bargaining process.                                                
                                                                               
 Number 554                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO responded to comments made by the previous speaker.              
 Current Alaska law allows open negotiations and is used by some               
 districts.  It is an agreement that is made early in the                      
 negotiation process between the ward and representative of the                
 employee group.  As a teacher involved in open negotiations, she              
 found little public interest because the process can be boring.               
                                                                               
 Number 568                                                                    
                                                                               
 DEE HUBBARD, a parent from Anchorage, stated her concern about                
 provisions in prior contracts, specifically the right of teachers             
 to bar their classrooms to parents.  Currently, the teacher and               
 principal must agree whether or not a parent is allowed in the                
 classroom.  She noted teacher negotiations in Tenessee are                    
 broadcast on the education network.                                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved the adoption of amendment #1, repealing the              
 requirement for duty-free mealtime for teachers in certain school             
 facilities.  SENATOR ELLIS objected to the motion.  The motion                
 carried with Senators Taylor, Green and Miller voting "Yea," and              
 Senator Ellis voting "Nay."                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR GREEN moved the adoption of amendment #2, changing line 9             
 of page 18 to read Sections 1-2, instead of 1-6.  SENATOR ELLIS               
 objected.  SENATOR GREEN explained the intent was that Section 18             
 apply to the first two sections, but during the drafting process,             
 an error was made.  SENATOR ELLIS withdrew his objection and the              
 motion carried.                                                               
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-19, Side B                                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS moved the adoption of amendment #3, that would change           
 the sections dealing with the de novo trial provision and provide             
 for arbitration under the Alaska Uniform Arbitration Act.                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER asked if binding arbitration would be used.  SENATOR           
 ELLIS answered the arbitration methods provided for in AS 09.43.010           
 -09.43.180 would be used.  SENATOR MILLER objected to the motion.             
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS indicated there would still be a limited judicial               
 review following the arbitration although an arbitrator's decision            
 is generally not overturnable.                                                
                                                                               
 CARL ROSE stated the Association of Alaska School Boards wants the            
 same process as is provided for all state employees.  SENATOR                 
 TAYLOR noted state employees do not have arbitration available to             
 them, with the exception of the state troopers.  MR. ROSE stated              
 the AASB is opposed to arbitration.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 537                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS asked Mr. Rose about an earlier comment regarding a             
 lack of respect for local school boards, and questioned who Mr.               
 Rose was referring to.  MR. ROSE replied he was responding to                 
 comments made by the other body, and comments attributed to Mr.               
 Marshall during the Senate HESS hearing that school board members             
 were not necessarily qualified to make these decisions.  SENATOR              
 ELLIS asked if Mr. Marshall said "qualified" or "unbiased."  MR.              
 ROSE stated he was not at the meeting.  SENATOR ELLIS stated                  
 several people commented that considering the school board hearing            
 the only trial for a tenured teacher may not be an unbiased                   
 approach.  MR. ROSE apologized for any misinformation he had, but             
 pointed out that in a number of arenas, an entire level of local              
 governance is ignored.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 521                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR GREEN stated it is apparent this bill has revealed a "we"             
 and "they" situation, and a great deal of frustration from parents,           
 school boards, and PTAs has been expressed.  CSSB 132 (HES) is                
 designed to empower parents.                                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR noted amendment #3 is before the committee, and                
 Senator Miller's objection was maintained.  The motion failed with            
 Senator Ellis voting "Yea," and Senators Green, Taylor, and Miller            
 voting "Nay."                                                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked teleconference participants to send written              
 comments to the committee for distribution to committee members.              
 He apologized for the schedule delay.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 372                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS moved amendment #4 which gives the judge increased              
 latitude in deciding whether a case should be reviewed at the                 
 Superior Court level.  SENATOR MILLER objected to the motion                  
 because the review would be a factual review rather than a                    
 procedural review.  The motion failed with Senators Taylor, Miller            
 and Green voting "Nay," and Senator Ellis voting "Yea."                       
                                                                               
 Number 472                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS stated the committee has not adequately reviewed CSSB
 132 (HES) and did not allot enough time to grapple and discuss the            
 issues.  The bill was pre-scheduled in Senate Judiciary before it             
 passed out of the Senate HESS committee, and is already scheduled             
 in Finance.                                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER moved CSSB 132 (JUD) out of committee with                     
 individual recommendations.  SENATOR ELLIS objected.  The motion              
 passed with Senators Green, Taylor and Miller voting "Yea," and               
 Senator Ellis voting "Nay."                                                   

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